All In — the new sports show from the Las Vegas Sun

One of the Las Vegas Sun’s goals is to build new-media content that focuses on people’s passions — thereby creating big traffic, thereby creating the perfect environment for Chris Jennewein’s team to build a successful business that supports the journalism.

BTW — Chris is still hiring if you’d like to join our team on the advertising side.

Anyway, as we analyze traffic trends on lasvegassun.com, it hasn’t taken us long to figure out that local sports content — specifically things related to UNLV basketball and (somewhat surprisingly) Rebels football, Ultimate Fighting Championship mixed-martial arts, boxing, World Series of Poker and sports gambling — gets big numbers.

Which is fine by us. The members of our new-media team know a thing or two about building sports content, so this plays to our strengths.

And then when you layer in that we love to produce lots of sports-related multimedia, and already were doing that in droves for the Sun’s site, it wasn’t a huge stretch that we could compile that content and produce a weekly sports show.

We’ve dabbled a little in producing television shows before, and more importantly than knowing what to do, we also knew a fair amount of what not to do. (And I promise to mention those things a little later in this post.)

The real reason for today’s blog post is to talk about the Las Vegas Sun’s new sports show, “All In.”

Here’s a screenshot from the opening of the show. That’s our team’s longtime sports anchor, Alex Adeyanju, in the middle. If you click on the screenshot, it’ll jump over to the opening of the show if you’d like to see the context of this shot.

All In screenshot

What’s really cool is that our reasons for doing “All In” aren’t a whole lot different than what I was talking about earlier. Whenever we post content on lasvegassun.com about UNLV or UFC or about sports gambling, the traffic goes nuts.

And though traffic to our video on lasvegassun.com has been hit and miss to say the least, that certainly hasn’t been the case with many of our sports videos.

Coming up with the tone and look of the show has been an interesting challenge for our team that we still don’t have completely figured out.

What is kind of cool about the show’s look is that it is the first thing we’ve filmed in our team’s new “conference” room. First, let me give you a little background on our new conference room.

Whenever a local or regional issue begins to become pretty big, the Las Vegas Sun does something in print called Sunday Conversations. It’s where the Sun will bring in four or five experts to talk about the local economy or the likelihood of a new arena in Las Vegas or getting four former Nevada governors in a room together and basically ask them how they would fix the mess that is known as Nevada’s state budget.

Our online team loves these “roundtables,” as they are informally referred to at the Sun. So, every time one of these group discussions happens, we go into the Sun’s conference room and set up lights and cameras for two or three hours. And when the discussion is over, we spend about the same amount of time tearing it all down.

As the Greenspun Media Group was designing and building its new offices — which the Greenspun Interactive team was going to move in to — we asked if our area’s main conference room could be designed a little differently. We wanted it sound-proofed and to have a high and open ceiling. We also wanted a full-on television lighting grid installed, as well as light-proof curtains that could completely encompass the room.

And that’s all on top of the regular conference-room amenities: projector and screen, flat-screen television, speakers, Internet connection, etc…

It is a conference room and studio. And what’s really cool is that it is used as both things almost daily.

Here is what it looks like as a conference room:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/multimedia/panoramas/2008/sep/26/conference_room_1/

And here is what it looks like as a studio:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/multimedia/panoramas/2008/sep/26/conference_room_2/

And that’s where “All In” is shot each week.

(It’s also where we shoot a new local music show we’re working on called “The Cooler” if you’d like to see the room without a poker table in it.)

The “All In” show is planned each week by our team’s lead sports video producer/anchor, Alex Adeyanju, along with a lot of help from our team’s other sports producer, Christine Killimayer. And when I say “a lot,” what I really mean is a whole sh*t ton.

Our new sports show is basically shot and edited as time permits over three days — Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.

Because, unlike “Studio 55” — our team’s first big foray into video, which was on TV via a local-access channel on cable — “All In” runs on a real local, over-the-air television station, meaning it has to have closed captioning. That means at about 9 or so on Thursday morning, a member of our staff runs a copy of the show over to one of our sister companies, who then adds all of the closed captioning (that’s after we’ve had an intern compile the scripts and transcribe the show).

Each new episode of “All In” gets uploaded to our site on Thursdays and runs on VegasTV (KTUD, Cox cable Channel 14) that day at 5:30 p.m. It seems like every city has a station that is a little like VegasTV — you know, the unaffiliated station that runs “King of the Hill,” “The Simpsons,” “Family Guy” and “Oprah Winfrey” as well as assloads of re-runs of “Frasier” and “That ’70s Show.”

Why go with an unaffiliated station?

Between 6 and 8 p.m., VegasTV has the No. 1 or No. 2 programs across the exact demographics that we’re trying to reach. With “The Simpsons,” “Family Guy” and “King of the Hill,” VegasTV is No. 1 or No. 2 in the 18-34/18-49/25-49 demographics every night — the exact demographic we were aiming for with “All In.”

And overall, VegasTV is the No. 1 channel in Las Vegas with 18-34 males. That’s why. Well, and our company owns a significant part of the station.
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Here’s a crappy photo taken on my mobile phone of the Cox Communications on-screen cable guide that shows “All In” in the menu. Pretty cool!

Cable menu screen

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One of the things that makes the show interesting for us is that it functions a lot like our website does.

It has lots of participation from our sports writers — some from the Sun’s traditional newsroom, some from the Home News (our company’s weekly newspapers) and some from our online-only writers.

What’s been really cool is how excited they’ve all been to participate in the show.

Here are links to specific segments tied to our different journalists:

Ryan Greene (UNLV football)

Home News sports editor Ray Brewer (high school football)

Jeff Haney, Las Vegas Sun gambling columnist

Ron Kantowski, Las Vegas Sun sports columnist

Andy Samuelson (UFC, boxing, World Series of Poker, NASCAR)

Christine Killimayer (sports video journalist)

We even partnered with a local sports talk station — ESPN Radio 1100 — to do a weekly segment for “All In” that focuses on fantasy football.

On the technical end, we’re getting lots of help from Trent Ogle (our team’s chief videographer), Ryan McAfee (utility infielder extreme) and shooter extraordinaire Voja Radosvljevic.

And I have to mention Josh Williams, who is involved at damn-near critical levels in just about everything that happens with our new-media team at the Las Vegas Sun, including helping in every way possible with this show.

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Earlier in this post, I mentioned that we definitely learned lots from “Studio 55” that we’re now applying to “All In” or will be applying shortly.

What are those things?

* For something like this, I can’t emphasize how important marketing/promotion is. We haven’t begun our big marketing campaign for this show yet, but we now know what we need to do based in large part on what we didn’t do in Naples.

And if you’re marketing campaign just includes ads in your own newspaper for two or three days, you’re screwed. That ain’t nearly gonna cut it.

But, just in case you’re wondering how we promote “All In” in the print edition of the Las Vegas Sun, here is a screenshot of the online news key that ran this week (it clicks through to a PDF):

All In print reference

* I know this sounds like product development 101, but know who your audience is and try to actually produce something they would want.

* For video like this, being on TV is essential, at least right now. But you also have to understand that if you’re going to be on a local cable public access channel that your audience is going to be about four, maybe five people. Maybe.

In Naples, “Studio 55” was essentially the nicest house in the crappiest neighborhood. Public access cable means your lead-in program will probably be an infomercial cooking show, and your show will likely be followed by an infomercial fishing show.

* Yes, you need to be able to download or watch the entire show on your site. But — and it seems so dang obvious to us now — you also have to be able to watch or download specific segments.

* Manage everyone in your organization’s expectations about what your online traffic will be. It ain’t going to be huge. At least not at first. That’s part of the reason why being on television is mandatory, in my mind. The biggest local audience for your videos — at least right now — probably isn’t going to be online, unless you have something hit virally.

And we know something about this because our team recently had a video here in Las Vegas go viral and get more than 700,000 views. But we’ve also had online videos get watched by eight people.

* The show/product/whatever-the-heck-you-call-it has to evolve and improve all of the time. You need to re-evaluate and be critical all of the time. Don’t just keep doing things the same way because that’s how you’ve always done them.

I’ve heard about organizations continuing to do things the same way they always have despite everything around them changing, and my gut tells me that story isn’t going to end very well.

On “All In,” the changes we’ve gone through with the program through just the first four episodes have been mind-blowing, and I know of several other big changes planned for next week’s episode.

* Make sure your sales team can actually sell what you’re producing and understands it.

I know there is supposed to be this wall between editorial and advertising, but I don’t think it needs to be a literal wall. So, even when you keep the virtual wall between editorial and advertising, there has to at least be honest-to-God dialogue and respect between both so there isn’t some unproductive gap in the common understanding.

People have to be on the same page.

Here at Greenspun Interactive, Chris Jennewein’s business folks not only sit in the same room as our new-media developers and journalists, we all actually hang out together and like each other.

* Know what your goals are for the program.

We have three or four goals with “All In” —

+ to build great expertise for when HD over IP, VOD, Apple TV, etc…, finally begin to catch on. When they do, we won’t just be ready, we’ll be ready and able to kick a little ass.

+ marketing, marketing, marketing for our website and newspaper. But mostly for our website and other new-media products aimed at the audience we’re going after.

+ content being used in multiple places/outlets — web, TV, etc…

+ marketing, marketing, marketing for our newspaper and website. I didn’t repeat that on accident. It’s that important to us. Though “All In” is jam-packed with tons of info, is fun and entertaining — it also is basically a 30-minute infomercial on how great our newspapers and websites are.

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So, do I think every newspaper in the country should begin doing things like this?

Nope.

There are so many variables, I’m not even sure where to start. But let’s start with the obvious ones:

* Who is your audience and is there a need in your community that could be filled that plays to your organization’s strengths?

* Is broadband video a key strategy for your company?

* Is Brian Greenspun or Don Graham or Dolph Simons your company’s leader? As Dolph Simons used to say almost daily at the Lawrence Journal-World, “Are we driving with our brights on?”

Another way of saying this, is your strategy for the next fiscal quarter or for the next quarter-century?

Things like “All In” aren’t strategies that are likely going to pay off over the next three months. If you’re doing this as a big payoff for the next fiscal quarter, I would tell you stay as far away from doing something like this as possible.

I’ll be the first to admit that what we’re doing might not work — just like it’s completely obvious to most folks that the current system/economics for print newspapers no longer works.

Whether “All In” ends up working — from both a financial perspective and a brand-marketing perspective — I can guarantee that it won’t be the last chance we take at Greenspun Interactive. And if it does fail, I can guarantee it won’t be our last failure.

But something like this that is produced by our company will hit — and hit big — and when it does, other newspapers around the country are either going to end up copying it or wondering why they hadn’t thought of it, because the bottom line is that what we’re doing here in Las Vegas no longer qualifies as being a traditional newspaper in any sense.

We’re not the local newspaper. We’re the local news organization that’s building for the future. We want to be where the people are and where the people are going to be in the future, not where they used to be.

It takes moxie and vision on the part of your organization’s leadership — from the publisher to the editor to the ad director — for something like this to even have a chance to work.

And all of the pieces were in place to do this in Las Vegas.

So, we went All In.

Wednesday was a really fun day at the Las Vegas Sun — an inside look at how a newspaper and website work together

I’m more and more convinced every day that the Las Vegas Sun is the most interesting local newspaper in the nation — both to read and to work at.

The Sun’s print edition — because of a very unique JOA with the other newspaper in town — doesn’t really act like a local newspaper of record, and instead acts much more like a daily magazine or a daily paper’s Sunday newspaper. Every day, the Sun print edition is jammed to the gills with lots of thoughtful and very good journalism being crafted by thoughtful and very good journalists.

Eight pages with no ads Monday through Friday. Six pages on Saturday. Ten pages on Sunday.

A local newspaper filled with lots of local journalism that matters and no ads. Craziest thing I’ve ever seen. Hell, it’s probably the craziest thing any of us have seen in regards to local media.

One of the things that we’ve found since being at the Las Vegas Sun is that a lot of that amazing journalism that works so well in the print edition (it’s essentially a kick-ass “A” section of all-enterprise local and state stories) doesn’t always translate to big online traffic numbers.

Because of that, our new-media journalists and editors have a ton of focus on writing lots of breaking news stories and essentially the other sections of a typical newspaper (metro, sports, entertainment/lifestyle). Those are all stories that because of the JOA, the Sun just doesn’t cover in print like a typical newspaper.

What that means, with the exception of all of the crazy alternate delivery and multimedia we do, is our new-media news team is about as old school as it gets.

Our newspaper’s editor/president, Brian Greenspun, has said on more than one occasion that though his father, longtime Sun editor/publisher Hank Greenspun, likely wouldn’t recognize today’s Sun print edition, he would completely recognize the local journalism that our newspaper’s new-media team practices on a daily basis.

And when you layer on top of all of that the tremendous amount of help we get from the Sun’s traditional newsroom, it starts to become even more interesting. What happens when two very different mindsets work together to accomplish the same goal?

The Las Vegas Sun’s primary goal in print, online, in video, on mobile, whatever … is the same even though we go about it in different ways: Inform the people of Las Vegas.

To see all of this in living-and-breathing action, all you have to do is look at a few highlights from Wednesday, Sept. 17.

My guess is that this blog post is going to be a little “inside baseball,” but if you want to know how a newspaper’s traditional newsroom and its new-media team can work together, it seems like this day in particular was a textbook example.

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The Sun print edition doesn’t cover UNLV athletics on a day-to-day basis, but the Rebels are one of our site’s biggest traffic draws. Because of that, our new-media team has two full-time UNLV beat journalists.

(Notice I didn’t say beat “writers?” Even though the majority of the content they produce is text, they also produce audio podcasts, appear on our weekly television show, help with video, shoot photos, edit outside blogs, etc…)

Our primary football writer for the Rebels, Ryan Greene, knew we needed to do the definitive story about a local kid playing for UNLV who, as a freshman, was making all of these big-league plays.

You know you’re reading a kick-ass story when it’s more than 2,000 words and it flies by like it only has 500 words. But this package had much more than Ryan’s great text.

It had this great accompanying video produced by our team’s lead sports video producer, Alex Adeyanju, along with footage from fellow Sun sports video producer Christine Killimayer and some assistance from our team’s kick-ass utility infielder, Billy Steffens.

And it had an old trick dating back to our days at Morris Digital Works: an animated playbook built in Flash — built by our team’s design god, Todd Soligo — that diagrams how the key play works that this freshman keeps using to score touchdown.

It had a killer online-only photo taken by Sun print shooter Leila Navidi that was totally what you’re not expecting from a local daily football photo. I loved it and was proud that it was on our newspaper’s website.

You know what’s really cool? This package was supposed to have more. Ryan called me as it was being put together to tell me that the audio interviews he hoped to embed in the package didn’t turn out as well as he had hoped, so those clips were being scratched.

It didn’t matter.

This was a great local package that worked on about 100 levels. I loved it. And I was proud of all of those who worked on it with an extremely quick turnaround.

Interesting sidenote: When journalism professors from across the nation have visited the Sun over the last few months and asked me what we’re looking for in recent grads, I introduce them to Ryan Greene. I then say, “Ryan, please explain to these folks what you do for a living.”

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Our team has an amazingly talented entertainment editor, Sarah Feldberg, who has been working with us since our days in Naples. Sarah is one of those people who does just about everything really well, and she always works her backside off.

Here in Las Vegas, Sarah is primarily our team’s editor for the Las Vegas Weekly magazine website, which I can’t wait to write about a little later … once we get a few more things tweaked on the site.

Anyway, with the release of the Rock Band 2 video game this past week, and its inclusion for the second time of a Las Vegas band’s music (the first game had the Killers and this one has Panic at the Disco, both from Vegas), Sarah put together a great blog post about the game and its local ties.

Along with Sarah’s blog was a really fun video, which Sarah narrates and is in, that was produced by one of our team’s video journalists, Matt Toplikar.

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Barack Obama was in Nevada on Wednesday. I probably should have made this the first item noted in this blog entry, but — let’s face it — I think every newspaper tries to do a great job when one of the presidential candidates comes to town. If your news organization isn’t pulling out all of the stops for something like this, then it’s probably time to just go ahead and shut ‘er down because you’re done.

Our new-media editors coordinated with our Carson City bureau on Tuesday to ask for web coverage of Obama’s speech, which was scheduled for early Wednesday. One of the Sun’s reporters, David McGrath Schwartz, sent us a short story to describe the scene when he arrived in Elko, followed by another story covering the speech shortly after it ended.

Meanwhile, we also worked closely with one of our Vegas-based reporters to cover Obama’s second Nevada speech of the day here in Las Vegas. The reporter, Michael Mishak, e-mailed a story immediately after the speech, quickly followed by video from our Web team.

Both the traditional newsroom and the Sun’s new-media journalists worked together to cover it with both accuracy and immediacy, setting the table for the type of story the Sun typically runs in its print edition.

Combined, here’s what our readers got:

Quick blog item before Obama’s Elko appearance:
www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/early-line/2008/sep/17/democrats-flock-see-obama-elko/

This story was from one of our Carson City reporters who traveled to Elko for Obama’s first appearance of the day in Nevada.

This Obama story was from a newsroom reporter who sent in a story right after the Vegas speech (with video):
www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/sep/17/obama-takes-aim-mccains-economy-statements-las-veg/

We also coordinated with our traditional newsroom’s photo staff to get photos up early (thank you, Sam Morris!), and had members of our new-media team — Denise Spidle and Ryan McAfee produce a video of Obama’s speech at Las Vegas’ minor-league baseball stadium.

(And while one Statehouse reporter was covering Obama, the other — Cy Ryan — was sending us three breaking news stories from Carson City.)

Since Nevada is one of the major battleground states in the presidential election, we made a decision early on to put some resources into this — and our traffic numbers show this was the right decision. A headline that includes any of these words: “Obama,” “McCain,” or “Palin,” is destined to be a most-read story on our site.

Before the Democratic National Convention, the traditional newsroom sent reporter J. Patrick Coolican and photographer Leila Navidi on the road throughout the Southwest U.S. to talk to real people about the concerns on their minds. New media videographer Matt Toplikar made trip and sent back several video reports from the road.

Coolican blogged constantly during the road trip, as well as during the Democratic and Republican national conventions. The result was a large package that consisted of Web-only blogs, photos and videos, combined with stories that appeared in the printed Las Vegas Sun.

In addition to our new-media news team and the print newsroom, we also get tons of help from the newsroom of our weekly Home News publications. They are providing us with local news stories that almost always jump into our most-read stories area.

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Oh, I almost forgot … we’ve got the latest OJ Simpson trial happening in Las Vegas right now.

This is something that the Sun print edition isn’t coverage on a daily basis, so the majority of our news organization’s text coverage of the trial is being produced by our new-media journalists, in particular Melissa Arseniuk.

But even though the Sun newspaper isn’t doing much coverage of the Simpson trial in the print edition, we’re getting almost daily photos from the Sun’s photo staff that we post very quickly from longtime Las Vegas Sun shooter Steve Marcus.

Our coverage of the Simpson trial also includes constant updates via Twitter. Melissa also has become the go-to local journalist on the trial for CNN, and is on CNN or CNN Headline News all of the time, where she mentions that her coverage can be found on lasvegassun.com. She also is appearing on morning news radio shows across the country, where — you guessed it — she mentions our expanded and constantly updated coverage of the trial on lasvegassun.com.

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Mary Manning is one of those longtime print reporters that every newspaper website in the world hopes to have on staff. Her institutional knowledge is amazing. Her work ethic is amazing. And she knows where all of the bodies are buried in the desert … which is helpful when you’re the Las Vegas Sun and there are likely bodies buried in the desert.

Even though Mary is on the traditional newsroom’s payroll, she writes almost 100 percent for our website. And, boy oh boy, does she write for our website. Typically, Mary will write at least six or seven breaking news stories a day. I think her record story count for a day is around 12 or 13 stories. She knows how to get ahold of everyone and at any time.

And her background knowledge of the community is an asset that is probably one of our site’s biggest intangibles.

But what’s really cool is not the volume she writes, but how often her stories fall right into lasvegassun.com’s sweet spot. She always has a story among our 10 most-read stories of the day, and has had as many as five or six in our 10 most-read.

So, of course, on Wednesday, Mary was doing her thing. Here are examples of a few of the stories she wrote Wednesday for our site:

Aryan Warrior prison gang leader sentenced to more than 16 years

Measurable rain falls in Henderson, downtown Las Vegas

As I’ve already written about, weather stories — even in Las Vegas — always get killer traffic.

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And Mary wasn’t the only one writing online-only breaking news. Cydney Cappello — one of our newspaper’s new-media journalists — was at the Las Vegas City Council meeting on Wednesday for another story she was working on.

But as she was sitting through the meeting, she realized there was a newsworthy story unfolding. She then came back to the office and put together a web-only story about the council’s decision regarding a proposed development in Las Vegas .

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So, what did all of this mean and how does it happen?

Wednesday’s traffic was one of the biggest days in lasvegassun.com history, all a part of one of the biggest overall traffic weeks in our site’s history.

The Sun’s new-media team has two very talented managing editors — Tim Richardson and Dave Toplikar. I’ve written about them before and they rock. Having respected journalists running your online news operation, and who also really understand the Internet, helps.

Another huge intangible is that we have great buy-in and support from Las Vegas Sun editor Mike Kelley and his AMEs. It’s one thing for folks like that to say they have buy-in for their newspaper’s website, and it’s another for them to have real skin in the game. Mike and the AMEs at the Sun have skin in the game.

Several key/senior editors and reporters have the ability to post directly to lasvegassun.com. And they do. They are always sending us (and having the Sun’s reporters create) stories that will never show up in the print edition of the newspaper. They edit lots of online content.

As I said earlier to open this post, Wednesday was a really fun day at the Las Vegas Sun because it really showcased just how deeply this organization is committed to serving its audience.

Viva Las Vegas.
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